I'd call it 'forced negotiation'
Episode II: Saw it with my 4-year old today. trying to view it from his perspective and remembering what it was like to see the first ones when I was his age, I think this one (and the last, for that matter) were fine additions to the list.
Why do so many people I’m around think otherwise? I think the reason is because these films don’t have the same oomph as the first series. To this I would say that the lack of interest you have is not because of the movie but because of yourself. You saw this series first when you were a child and were enchanted. You’ve seen the new ones as an adult and are not. This is not Lucas’s fault, it’s yours. The fact that you/I are incapable of having a movie affect us like we used to and like our children are is by no fault of ILG. We cannot suspend our immense disbelief long enough to accept terrible dialogue, and we cannot forget the mass amounts of marketing long enough to enjoy it without thinking about how they’re going to try and sell our children on this starship or that trooper.
But if you go back and view the first (last) three, you’ll find exactly the same dialogue (if performed by perhaps a more suitably put-together cast) said the same way, and still, you’ll find those 3 to be better than the latest 2. Why? Because you still hold onto those from a child’s perspective. And if you go about the difficult task of viewing them objectively as an adult, you’ll probably find yourself wondering why you even thought those were half as good as you did. And then you’ll come to the conclusion that hey, it’s just a movie and that it’s time to enjoy the newest ones as much as you can, because you’ll set yourself up for disappointment if you try to enjoy them as an adult. It’s what happened to me 2 years ago with Phantom Menace and I’ve resolved myself to enjoying it as much like a child as I can.
Oh, and seeing Yoda prove the reverence felt by his fellow Jedi was cool.
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So true, so true….I remember Poseiden Adventure and the Towering Inferno. So huge, with storylines I could hardly follow and characters almost as cool as my dad.
the news ones don’t have any really strong actors like harrison ford or alec guiness, and that is just one of the problems
fuck yeah! the poseidon adventure is the bomb! barely anyone survives. awesome movie.i will liken lucas to tim burton: great creators/storytellers, horrible moviemakers. empire is the best because it had the least amount of lucas involvement.just remember, sand is course. not like you. you’re soft.
finally somebody who get’s it. thanks.
I went in expecting to hate it so much, I was pleasantly surprised… If you look at films like this with the open mind and expansive imagination of a 7-year-old, it’s amazing how much more uplifting the whole experience can be.
What was also very impressive were the loud cheers as people realized they were watching the new Matrix trailer… Everyone seemed very pumped for those films.
I loved it, watched it twice in two days… I think its the best one so far, followed by Empire and then Star Wars and then Return and then Phantom.
I wholly agree with your assessment dude. But never the less the 2 new ones are still kinda lame.
Here’s why…
Off the charts bad acting from everyone involved with the notable exceptions of Frank Oz and Christopher Lee. The reason why the performances are so flat: Blue Screen. You’d suck pretty bad too if you had to act to nothing but thin air.
All of the actors in the first 3 movies (the gospel according to lucas) were relatively unknown and had nothing to lose (and everything to gain) by turning in the best performances of their careers up until that point. The acting is by far much more vivid and genre appropriate.
The current camp of prima donnas are only worried about not getting in on profit sharing and how Star Wars might get them typecast in the future. Their performances are dull and reserved as to garner as little audience attention/retention as possible.
Boba/Jango Fett is overrated. I’m going to say it…Boba was a punk in the first 3 movies and apparently, in the most recent installment, Jango proves that it runs in the family.
Lets go over it shall we? The heavily armed and armored Boba Fett falls victim to the blind Han Solo who inadvertently causes Boba’s rocket pack to miss fire. Subsequently he’s eaten by a large stationary sand creature!!?? I thought that was lame even when I was a kid.
The heavily armed and armored Jango Fett is decapitated in under 10 seconds by Mace Windu who has yet to prove he’s a Jedi to be reckoned with.
You cats need to get off that Yoda nonsense. He’s cool and all but that fight sequence was not the be all end all. They basically turned him into green high-velocity tumble weed. The all 3-D Yoda looked lame. I was expecting him to pull an “Apache Chief” (for those of you who go back that far) and grow 50 feet tall and start taking cats to school.
The pacing on the movies is like molasses in winter. We’re living in a day of Fight Club/Requiem for a Dream styled lightning-paced edits. Let’s face it, we all want to come as close to an epileptic seizure as possible without actually choking on our tongues when we go to the movies. This makes up for the fact that we are passively consuming non-interactive entertainment. The old man’s a dinosaur and this comes from a guy who loves his stuff.
In summary…
Admiral Lucas, you’ve failed me for the last time. Generals Andy and Larry you are in command now.
The only good part about Episode II Attach of the Goons was the kick-ass pre empire AT-ATs and Darth Tyrannous. Christopher Lee rocked as Count Dracula and now you can put him down for another Count. He’s the only dude to take Yoda in a fight and walk away unscathed and at a leisurely pace to boot. His plea for Obi wan to join him was a page torn right of Lord Vader’s rule book (or vice versa if you want to get real nerdy). Gusto is what SW is all about.
Bring me The Two Towers, in the meantime go get your skulls rocked…
::RELOADED::REVOLUTIONS
MACS RULE
There were way too many characters, way too much going on, actors trying too hard. ms. portman is a beautiful woman, but she is never convincing as leader. Laia could kick ass (she kills Jaba with a chain and her own brawn. The love story was way over done. I will never believe a 24 year old woman (with the supposed savy of a Senator) would ever fall for a bratty-ass pony-tailed 16 year old boy… unless maybe a slip in judgement and possibly passible if the kid actually had some charisma. “i’ve thought of you every day” since you were eight? i also love Queen Armadillio trying to keep this horny teenager away from here by wearing a backless dress followed by a halter top… the see-through t-shirt didn’t seem to help the situation either.
the scene where Armadillo and Annie are getting through the clone plant with the hot steel was in that movie for one reason. the friggin video game. i bet anyone $40,000 that there will be a Attack of the Clones video game and to get to the next level you will have to time the crushers like Armadildo has too. Not only is it a cheesy movie action cliche, it’s a cheesy video game cliche (anyone remember Frogger).
overall though the film was better than Jar Jar Menace, and at least entertaining and kinda cool to see Yoda fight… and then use his cain… nice touch!!!
the only way Lucas can redeem himself in the next film is if Jar Jar dies a slow gruesome death.
There was no good acting in the first 3 movies, why does it suprise you people that there’s no good acting in these 3? Honestly, go back and look at the first 3 flicks. They SUCKED in terms of acting. They were entertaining nonetheless. Acting never was the point. Entertaining kids was the point. Personally I think Lucas delivered par for his acting-challenged course.
Doesn’t mean it’s not an entertaining dealie-bob, regardless of its deficiencies. It’s perfectly suited to his target audience of 10-year olds.